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	<title>Comments on: Flashing Yellow Arrows</title>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.missingfeatures.com/2007/07/25/flashing-yellow-arrows/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link loads OK for me...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link loads OK for me&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.missingfeatures.com/2007/07/25/flashing-yellow-arrows/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your software is removing the &quot;@&quot; sign which is a necessary part of my website address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your software is removing the &#8220;@&#8221; sign which is a necessary part of my website address.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.missingfeatures.com/2007/07/25/flashing-yellow-arrows/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of flashing yellow arrows is to eliminate the danger called &quot;lag trap&quot; or &quot;yellow trap.&quot; see this website:

http://geocities.com/midimagic@sbcglobal.net/lagtrpqz.htm

The flashing yellow arrow provides a needed display which is unavailable without it. This is a display that allows the left turn to continue to be permissively made through gaps in incoming traffic while the straight-ahead light for the same approach is red.

With the flashing yellow arrow, a cure for lag trap is possible. This cure does not rely on changing the order the signal displays its green lights in to an order that prevents progression of green lights along the length of a street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of flashing yellow arrows is to eliminate the danger called &#8220;lag trap&#8221; or &#8220;yellow trap.&#8221; see this website:</p>
<p><a href="http://geocities.com/midimagic@sbcglobal.net/lagtrpqz.htm" rel="nofollow">http://geocities.com/midimagic@sbcglobal.net/lagtrpqz.htm</a></p>
<p>The flashing yellow arrow provides a needed display which is unavailable without it. This is a display that allows the left turn to continue to be permissively made through gaps in incoming traffic while the straight-ahead light for the same approach is red.</p>
<p>With the flashing yellow arrow, a cure for lag trap is possible. This cure does not rely on changing the order the signal displays its green lights in to an order that prevents progression of green lights along the length of a street.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.missingfeatures.com/2007/07/25/flashing-yellow-arrows/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 06:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve read up on Hans Monderman and Ben Hamilton-Baillie. Interesting ideas in traffic design. However, to say they advocate driver confusion is wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What they advocate is reducing the sense of ownership that traditional road design tends to extend to cars. By removing the traditional components of how a road is built a driver feels less &quot;at home&quot; on the road.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This really means people drive with more caution and awareness, which tends to mean they drive slower.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s an interesting idea but it has limited applications. Perhaps in dense downtowns this could work. But you still need highways and critical arterials.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I might be concerned about the lifespan of this approach. It relies too much on being different than what exists, as opposed to standing on it&#039;s own merits.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once a driver gets used to the new road, over time, will they begin to speed up and use less caution? Will comfort return the sense of driver ownership that this new approach attempts to quell? Only time will tell.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read up on Hans Monderman and Ben Hamilton-Baillie. Interesting ideas in traffic design. However, to say they advocate driver confusion is wrong.</p>
<p>What they advocate is reducing the sense of ownership that traditional road design tends to extend to cars. By removing the traditional components of how a road is built a driver feels less &#8220;at home&#8221; on the road.</p>
<p>This really means people drive with more caution and awareness, which tends to mean they drive slower.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting idea but it has limited applications. Perhaps in dense downtowns this could work. But you still need highways and critical arterials.</p>
<p>I might be concerned about the lifespan of this approach. It relies too much on being different than what exists, as opposed to standing on it&#8217;s own merits.</p>
<p>Once a driver gets used to the new road, over time, will they begin to speed up and use less caution? Will comfort return the sense of driver ownership that this new approach attempts to quell? Only time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.missingfeatures.com/2007/07/25/flashing-yellow-arrows/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m startled at the thought of a traffic engineer actually advocating &quot;driver confusion&quot; but I&#039;ll look up these sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m startled at the thought of a traffic engineer actually advocating &#8220;driver confusion&#8221; but I&#8217;ll look up these sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.missingfeatures.com/2007/07/25/flashing-yellow-arrows/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an entire school of traffic engineering and urban design that argues &quot;doubt, hesitation and driver confusion&quot; are, actually, the most reliable source of road safety. See Hans Monderman and Ben Hamilton-Baillie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an entire school of traffic engineering and urban design that argues &#8220;doubt, hesitation and driver confusion&#8221; are, actually, the most reliable source of road safety. See Hans Monderman and Ben Hamilton-Baillie.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.missingfeatures.com/2007/07/25/flashing-yellow-arrows/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.missingfeatures.com/2007/07/25/flashing-yellow-arrows/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said- nice job.  

(I do like &quot;Abusability&quot; as well...classic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said- nice job.  </p>
<p>(I do like &#8220;Abusability&#8221; as well&#8230;classic)</p>
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